Max Levchin says Amex is a North Star for his fintech Affirm – Business Insider

  • Affirm (AFRM) listed on Nasdaq at $49 per share on Wednesday.
  • The buy now, pay later fintech raised $1.2 billion in its public markets debut. 
  • Affirm founder and CEO Max Levchin spoke with Insider on Wednesday about why industry giant American Express serves as a guide for how to navigate the public market.
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Affirm, the buy now, pay later fintech, just made its public markets debut. 

The fintech, which offers no-fee installment loans for online shoppers, raised $1.2 billion in its initial public offering, issuing 24.6 million shares priced at $49 per share. 

Consistent with recent tech IPOs like DoorDash and AirBnb, Affirm’s share price surged as much as 110% above its opening price in initial hours of trading. 

With its public debut under its belt, Affirm CEO and founder Max Levchin spoke to Insider on Wednesday about his plans for transforming the credit industry.

Levchin said Amex is a ‘North Star’ in the credit space

With the rise of fintechs pushing transparency and offering low- or no-fee financial products, consumers’ attitudes toward credit have shifted. But that doesn’t mean credit cards are going away anytime soon. 

In fact, Levchin pointed to American Express as an inspirational player in financial services.

“Amex, of all the financial services brands, is in many ways a North Star of how to comport yourself and how to be,” Levchin told Insider Wednesday. “They’ve done a fantastic job standing for something.”

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During the coronavirus pandemic, Amex (along with many other financial services companies) waived interest and late fees for customers facing financial difficulties. And the card giant has been a vocal supporter of small businesses, pushing its Shop Small initiative and offering customers rewards for shopping locally.

Levchin — of PayPal Mafia fame —  has been vocal about his mission of honest finance. He founded Affirm as an alternative to credit cards.

Credit cards “failed to keep up with the evolving world,” Levchin said in his opening letter in Affirm’s S-1 filing.

“One could argue cards have devolved, even become corrupted. The barely-readable fine print makes only one thing clear to consumers: You’ll never know exactly what your purchase will really cost you,” Levchin wrote.

Traditional players still need to evolve, Levchin said

And while Amex will serve as a guide to how Affirm can navigate the public markets, that’s not to say established players don’t need to update their offerings.

Levchin said Wednesday that credit-card companies like Amex, Citi, and Chase aren’t necessarily in danger — but some of their products are.

Affirm doesn’t charge late fees, and Levchin is one of many in the fintech space that rails against things like deferred interest. Lenders may offer a 0% interest loan, but if it’s not paid back within a specific timeframe, the borrower could be charged interest retroactively. 

“They shouldn’t be offering the products they do,” Levchin said. “I think the market is shifting away from them.” 

The banks behind deferred interest credit cards shouldn’t be worried about Affirm, Levchin added. But they should worry about consumers opting for other options, like Affirm.

“It’s not the players,” Levchin said. “It’s the product that needs to be worried.”

Affirm’s roadshow was an affirmation of Levchin’s mission

Affirm had originally planned to go public in 2020. But in December, The Wall Street Journal reported the fintech was delaying its listing until January, at the earliest. The story cited the extreme IPO pops that DoorDash and Airbnb saw as one of the reasons for the pause, in addition to delays at the Securities and Exchange Commission processing IPO requests.

But Levchin said there wasn’t any “drama” related to its IPO timeline. 

“It just takes a bunch of work to get it right,” Levchin said. “We don’t cut corners.”

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Affirm started its roadshow on January 5th. With any company approaching an IPO, investors primary concerns are the company’s financials and anticipated share performance. But Levchin said that investors were receptive to his “preaching.”

“It was super rewarding,” Levchin said. “I think 100% of my roadshow meetings people were like, ‘yeah, that’s right. It is messed up that people pay so much in fees. Someone should do something about it, and you did!'”

The fintech, alongside other buy now, pay later fintechs like Afterpay and Klarna, saw massive growth in 2020. With more than 6.2 million users and 6,500 merchants, Affirm saw 77% growth in purchase volume year-over-year in its 2020 financial year-end results.

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